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Poster: kennyd Date: Oct 12, 2005 8:16am
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)

Good, informative article.

I personally prefer XviD for compressed videos. XviD is an open source codec similar to DivX. Check out XviD here http://www.xvid.org/

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Poster: camomille Date: Oct 12, 2005 9:30am
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)

ogg vorbis was fun a few years ago, but now its irrelevant.
the biggest problem ? the number of users that actually *know* what it is.

my opinion :)

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Poster: transient Date: Oct 12, 2005 7:10pm
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)

I've gotta agree with mr. camomille here. I listen to the majority of my downloaded music on a portable mp3 player, which doesn't play ogg files. It's kinda sad, some of my favorite labels like kahvi which have made the switch I don't even bother checking out anymore since they release in ogg format. Of course, I could download, and convert the files, but that seems like a big pain in the butt.

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Poster: ssieranoja Date: Oct 12, 2005 8:10pm
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)


Ogg Vorbis has the best size/quality ratio for audio formats. It's only problem is that it's not as widely used as mp3. But the only way to solve that problem is to promote it's use, which Internet Archive should do imho.

But still.. why not release the files in both formats? There is no need to make a 'switch'.

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Poster: camomille Date: Oct 13, 2005 11:31pm
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)

Mp3 has been so much publicised and promoted, its impossible to overcome it now that everything from software, to games to hardware use it as a reference. As much as i like the .ogg idea and even if its higher quality, it's sadly finished :\

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Poster: ssieranoja Date: Oct 14, 2005 12:58am
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)

It's not 'impossible'. It's just going to take some time to get better support for ogg. Already most of the software media players (like winamp and vlc) play ogg vorbis. The only thing that is missing is the hardware support (for portable mp3 players), which is also getting better.

Rio for example has already released a portable mp3/ogg/flac player:
http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=261

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Poster: J.B. Nicholson-Owens Date: Oct 14, 2005 3:09am
Forum: netlabels Subject: Popularity should not be the measure of all things.

There are many hardware players that will play Ogg Vorbis. See http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/VorbisHardware for a list and links to portable and static players. The Apple iPod is merely the most heavily advertised portable digital audio player, it is not the most capable or highest quality. For some time now, one has had the option to get a portable digital audio player that will play more formats than what Apple sells and even a player that runs on free software (software you can share and modify). Some games use Ogg Vorbis too (http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Games_that_use_Vorbis).

But eventually people will wise up to how DRM restricts what media they have access to, and then they will realize why unencumbered media is inherently more valuable.

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Poster: benekkea Date: Oct 12, 2005 9:52am
Forum: netlabels Subject: Re: Why Open Source Licensing/GNU? (flac/ogg/THEORA/etc..)

i'm agree with camomille idea!